[In response to a friend's post on Facebook]
You seem to suggest that the people who believe in God recognize that religion is root of human troubles, so they should give up and go home. As if to say, There is no God, so knock off this silly religion business. It’s causing nothing but trouble. That’s not going to work unless you first convert them to atheism. I don’t think that will be easy.
You say that religion is the problem, the source of all the world’s divisiveness and horror. I say no, we call that good vs. evil. Sin is a word that comes to mind. Delusion works. My favorite word is prelest, which is Russian. [http://goo.gl/IE6zm]. That people use what is beautiful as a means to ugliness does not change the essence of the thing, is my point.
I’m not sure how a Christian posting a video supporting gay rights winds up getting a lecture on how religion is the problem for gays, except that nobody ever expects the Spanish Irony, I mean Inquisition. The very fact that this video has gone viral, that so many people honor its message of love and tolerance, completely contradicts your premise. You think only atheists care? And of course the church has always been the place where the struggle between good and evil is most profound. Where else would you expect evil to go looking for a fight?
It seems to me that telling religious people that religion is stupid makes exactly as much sense as trying that argument on an atheist, and demanding their immediate baptism. You could try killing the religion out of them. Didn’t work in Russia, hasn’t worked in China. Especially since throughout history even people who got their throats slashed by thugs believed in something they thought was worth dying for. And generally, it was just they wanted the right to pray.
You think only religion kills people in defense of its belief system? The Soviets killed millions of Christians in the name of atheism. Many people say the KGB is still alive and well, and stories of atheist evil still filter out of the “former” USSR. You think it’s easy being Christian, or anything except Communist, in China today? What’s the penalty for being religious in North Korea?
I’m not demeaning your opinion by likening it to those of people who’ve committed atrocities; you have a right to your opinion on its own merits. But you brought up history, and took it back pretty far, not giving much credence to modern efforts to reform parochial thinking. So I will point out that the Bolsheviks had plenty of gripes about the history of religion when they revolted in 1917, and defiled every church they could find. And if Christians have, under delusion, killed for their beliefs, millions have also died for them. Getting thrown the lions will really ruin your day. … OK, bad joke.
So here’s my idea: Instead of telling people religion is stupid, let’s have a country with freedom to practice religion or not. And say that the government doesn’t get to decide what the religions are or mess with them. We’re probably going to have to keep reminding them about that, because religious people are going to get elected and get all judgmental on us. And if it happens, we can sue, or we can find a really smart college kid and send him to the state house to set their f—kin’ clocks.
And people who believe in God but aren’t trying to control other people will point him out and say Cool. … +1! … Like! … I predict a long hard climb toward enlightenment, tolerance, and peace. Progress, not perfection.
In a nutshell, the place to make and enforce laws is government. You can tell the government to stay out of religion and make it enforceable, because the government doesn’t have to stay out of government. The government can’t make a law against the church meddling in politics without breaking the law against meddling in religion. At best, it’s a pretty good suggestion.
Posted by Kyle Kimberlin 